Sander

A sander is a power tool that abrades a surface by moving a coated abrasive against it under controlled motion and pressure, smoothing, leveling, or stripping wood, metal, plaster, paint, and composite. The category spans grain-of-rice detail tools to long-neck drywall machines, and the differences that matter to a buyer are the motion type (random orbital, fixed orbital, belt, disc, or oscillating), the abrasive grade, and the dust-handling chain. "Sander" on a purchase order is rarely specific enough; the model that fits a job is decided by surface geometry, stock-removal goal, and finish target.

This guide treats the sander as a system: the machine, the abrasive consumable, and the extraction that keeps both working. Every spec value below traces to a manufacturer data sheet or a published standard, and the standards anchor is IEC 62841-2-4 for hand-held sanders together with ISO 6344 for abrasive grit and ISO 5349 for hand-arm vibration.

Porter-Cable random orbital sander with round hook-and-loop pad and dust collector, shown beside three perforated abrasive sanding discs of different grits

This guide is aimed at industrial purchasing engineers and design engineers. It covers 6 chapters from sander types, abrasive grades, motion principles, sizing and standards, to spec-sheet decoding and selection decisions, with 7 selection FAQs and manufacturer comparisons. All parameters reference IEC 62841-2-4, ISO 6344, and ISO 5349 public standards, cross-checked against published manufacturer data sheets.

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What a Sander Is

A sander is a motor-driven abrasive tool. It holds a coated abrasive (sandpaper, a sanding belt, a net or hook-and-loop disc) against a workpiece and moves that abrasive in a defined path so the grit cuts microscopic furrows, removing material and progressively refining the surface. The tool does three jobs that a hand-held block does slowly and inconsistently: it sustains a constant abrasive speed, it distributes pressure across the pad, and on the better designs it pulls the spent grit and dust away from the cut so the abrasive keeps cutting cleanly. The quality of a finished surface is set far more by the abrasive grade and the sequence than by the brand badge on the housing.

Structurally a hand-held sander has four functional parts. First, a motor, which is a universal brushed motor on most corded tools or, increasingly, a brushless electronically commutated motor on premium and cordless tools for higher efficiency and longer life. Second, a motion mechanism that converts rotation into the working path: an offset eccentric bearing for orbital and random orbital, a pulley pair for a belt, or a direct spindle for a disc. Third, the pad or platen that carries the abrasive, typically a 125 mm or 150 mm hook-and-loop disc, a rectangular sheet platen, or a belt platen. Fourth, the dust path: a perforated pad with a turbine or bag, or a port for a hose to an external dust extractor.

The history of powered sanding runs alongside the broader electrification of the workshop. Coated abrasives were industrialized in the nineteenth century, and the portable belt sander appeared in the early twentieth as woodworking shops electrified. The decisive consumer breakthrough was the random orbital sander, which spread widely from the 1980s onward because its non-repeating swirl pattern let a one-handed tool produce a swirl-free finish that previously demanded careful hand work. The brushless motor and serious dust extraction are the two more recent shifts: brushless motors brought credible cordless finishing power, and tighter occupational dust limits made integrated extraction a baseline expectation rather than an accessory.

In application terms the sander spans a wide envelope. At the heavy end, a belt sander with a 100 by 610 mm belt levels glued panels and strips paint at belt speeds around 8 m/s; at the fine end, a detail sander with a triangular pad smooths the inside corner of a window frame at 11,000 OPM. Between them sits the random orbital sander, the workhorse that handles most flat finishing on wood, filler, primer, and clearcoat. Drywall sanders extend the same orbital idea onto a long reach pole so a single operator can finish a ceiling. No single machine covers this range, which is exactly why selection, not just purchase, is the engineering task.

Four practical metrics decide whether a sander is right for a buyer: the motion type and orbit (which set the finish and the stock-removal rate), the pad or belt size (which sets coverage and corner access), the dust-handling capability (which sets compliance and finish cleanliness), and the declared vibration and noise (which set how long an operator may safely run the tool). These four, not headline wattage alone, govern productivity and total cost across a working life.

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Sander Types and Classification

The cleanest way to classify sanders is by the motion the abrasive makes against the work, because that motion determines finish quality, stock-removal rate, and which surfaces the tool can reach. The seven mainstream hand-held types are random orbital, orbital sheet (finishing), belt, disc, detail, drywall (long-neck), and file or spindle. Choosing the wrong motion type is the most common and most expensive mistake: a belt sander on a veneer panel cuts through it in seconds, while a finishing sander on a glued joint takes ten times longer than it should. The table below summarizes the core differences.

TypePad / BeltTypical SpeedBest For
Random orbital125 / 150 mm disc4,000 to 12,000 OPMSwirl-free flat finishing, autobody
Orbital sheet1/4, 1/3, 1/2 sheet10,000 to 12,000 OPMCorners, fine finishing
Belt75 to 100 mm wide belt4 to 8.5 m/sFast stock removal, leveling
Disc (angle)115 to 180 mm disc5,000 to 11,000 RPMAggressive metal, weld dressing
Detail (delta)Triangular pad11,000 to 22,000 OPMCorners, slats, intricate profiles
Drywall (long-neck)215 / 225 mm head400 to 1,700 RPMWalls and ceilings at reach
File / spindleNarrow belt / drumVariableSlots, curves, contoured edges

Random orbital sanders are the default flat-finishing tool. The pad sits on an offset eccentric bearing and is free to rotate, so it both orbits and spins, tracing a path that never repeats and avoiding the visible swirl lines of a fixed orbital. They take round hook-and-loop discs, almost universally 125 mm (5 inch) or 150 mm (6 inch), and dominate woodworking and automotive refinish. Representative machines include the Mirka DEROS 5650 (350 W brushless, 125/150 mm pad, 5.0 mm orbit, 4,000 to 10,000 RPM, 1.07 kg), the Festool ETS EC 125/3 (125 mm pad, 3 mm orbit) and ETS EC 150/5 (150 mm pad, 5 mm orbit), and the Bosch GET65-5N (6.5 A, 3,300 to 7,800 OPM, dual-mode turbo).

Orbital sheet sanders (also called finishing or palm sanders) drive a rectangular pad in a small fixed circle without free rotation. Because the pad is square, they reach into corners a round disc cannot, and they take a torn or pre-cut fraction of a standard sheet: quarter, third, or half sheet. They leave a finer but more repetitive pattern and remove stock slowly, so they are a finishing tool, not a leveling tool. The Makita BO4900 is a half-sheet example (330 W, 115 by 229 mm pad, 10,000 OPM, 2.6 mm orbit, 2.7 kg), and the Makita BO3710 a one-third-sheet example (93 by 185 mm pad, 11,000 OPM).

Belt sanders run a continuous abrasive loop over two rollers for the fastest stock removal of any portable sander. They are the right tool for leveling glued panels, dimensioning rough lumber, and stripping coatings. The trade-off is aggression and a directional scratch pattern that must be followed with a random orbital. Belt widths are commonly 75 mm (3 inch) or 100 mm (4 inch); the Makita 9403 uses a 100 by 610 mm (4 by 24 inch) belt at about 8.3 m/s driven by a 1,200 W motor. Disc sanders in the hand-held angle-grinder form are the most aggressive and least controllable for fine work; the disc-type machines sit under a separate safety standard and are typically reserved for metal and weld dressing.

Detail sanders carry a small triangular (delta) pad that follows narrow profiles, louvered slats, and tight inside corners that defeat every other type. Drywall sanders mount an orbital head on a long telescoping neck so one operator can sand walls and ceilings; the Festool PLANEX LHS 2 225 uses a 225 mm head driven at 5,000 to 8,500 RPM eccentric motion by a 400 W motor with mandatory dust extraction. File and spindle sanders use a narrow belt or a rotating drum to reach slots, internal curves, and contoured edges. The seven types are complementary, not competing, which is why a professional kit usually holds three or four of them.

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Motion Principles and Abrasive Grades

Two variables govern how any sander actually cuts: the motion of the machine and the grade of the abrasive on it. Get either wrong and no amount of power compensates. The motion sets the scratch geometry and the removal rate; the grit sets the depth of those scratches and the achievable finish. The table below compares the motion principles that distinguish the main machine types.

PrinciplePad MotionRemoval RateScratch Pattern
Random orbitalOrbit + free rotationMedium-highRandom swirl, near-invisible
Fixed orbitalSmall fixed circleLow-mediumFine, repetitive
Belt (linear)Continuous straight loopHighDirectional, follow grain
Rotary discContinuous rotationVery highCurved, aggressive
Oscillating (detail)Rapid small angular sweepLowFine, profile-following

The random orbital principle is the most important to understand because it is the workshop default. An eccentric bearing offsets the pad spindle from the motor axis, so the pad orbits in a small circle whose diameter is the orbit (the eccentric stroke), commonly 2.5, 3, or 5 mm. Crucially the pad is not driven in rotation; it is free to spin on its own bearing, dragged into slow rotation by friction with the work. The orbit and the free rotation superimpose into a path that never retraces itself, which is what suppresses visible swirl. A 5 mm orbit removes stock quickly and suits leveling and paint stripping; a 2.5 to 3 mm orbit gives the fine pattern wanted for sanding between finish coats.

The fixed orbital principle drives a rectangular pad in the same small circle but blocks free rotation, so the pattern is finer and repetitive and removal is slower. It buys corner access in exchange. The belt principle moves the abrasive in a straight continuous line, which is the fastest way to remove material and the only motion that should follow the wood grain rather than crossing it. The rotary disc principle spins the abrasive continuously and removes the most material of all, at the cost of control and a curved scratch that is hard to refine away on fine work. Oscillating detail motion sweeps a small triangular pad through a rapid narrow angle to follow profiles.

The abrasive grade is the other half of the system, and it is standardized. The grit number counts how coarse or fine the mineral is: lower numbers are coarser and cut faster, higher numbers are finer and refine the surface. Europe and most imported abrasives use the FEPA P scale defined by ISO 6344, written with a leading P; North America historically used the CAMI scale with no prefix. The two agree closely through about P220 and then diverge in the fine range. ISO 6344-2 covers macrogrits P12 to P220 and ISO 6344-3 covers microgrits P240 to P5000. FEPA holds a tighter particle-size distribution than CAMI, giving a more uniform scratch.

FEPA P (ISO 6344)ClassTypical Use
P40 to P60CoarseStripping paint, leveling, heavy stock removal
P80 to P120MediumShaping, removing belt scratches, first pass
P150 to P180FineFinal wood prep before stain or primer
P220 to P320Very fineSanding between finish coats
P400 to P600Extra fineWet sanding, clearcoat de-nibbing
P800 to P2000+Ultra finePolishing prep, automotive paint correction

The governing rule of any sanding sequence is to climb the grit ladder without skipping more than one step. Each grade is sized to remove the scratches left by the grade before it; jumping from P80 straight to P220 leaves P80 scratches that the finish later reveals as a hazy texture. The practical wood sequence is P80, then P120, then P180, finishing at P220, with finer grades reserved for between-coat and clearcoat work. Always confirm whether a paper is marked P (FEPA) or plain (CAMI) before mixing grades from different suppliers, because a CAMI 320 and a FEPA P320 are not the same fineness.

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Sizing, Dust Extraction, and Standards

Once the motion type is chosen, three further decisions complete a specification: pad or belt size, the dust-extraction chain, and the certification the tool and consumable must carry. Sizing is mostly a coverage-versus-control trade. A larger pad covers area faster but is harder to keep flat on small or curved parts and weighs more, raising operator fatigue. The two dominant random orbital pad sizes are 125 mm (5 inch), which is more controllable for detail and edges, and 150 mm (6 inch), which covers about 44 percent more area per pass and is favored for large flat panels and autobody. Sheet sanders are sized by paper fraction (quarter, third, half), and belt sanders by belt width and length, commonly 75 by 533 mm or 100 by 610 mm.

Dust extraction is no longer optional on a serious tool, for three reasons: health, finish, and abrasive life. The dust from drywall and stone carries respirable crystalline silica, and certain hardwood dusts are also classified hazards, so capturing dust at the source is a regulated occupational requirement in many jurisdictions, not a comfort feature. Trapped grit under the pad also gouges the surface and clogs the abrasive, so removing it improves both finish and consumable economy. Machines pull dust through a perforated or net pad and route it to one of three destinations: a self-generating turbine, an onboard collection bag, or a hose to an external extractor.

External extractors are themselves graded by the dust class they are certified to capture: L class for general nuisance dust, M class for wood and quartz dust including silica, and H class for the most hazardous and carcinogenic dusts. For drywall and any silica-bearing material, an M class extractor with automatic filter cleaning is the right pairing, because the fine plaster dust blinds a simple bag almost immediately. The net-style abrasives used on premium machines extract more evenly than punched-hole paper because the entire face is open to suction rather than a few holes that must align with the pad.

The table below summarizes the sizing and dust-handling choices and what they trade against each other.

DecisionCommon OptionsTrade-off
Random orbital pad125 mm vs 150 mmControl and edges vs coverage speed
Belt size75x533 vs 100x610 mmManeuverability vs removal rate
Dust destinationBag, turbine, or hosePortability vs capture efficiency
Extractor classL / M / H classCost vs hazard captured
Abrasive backingPunched paper vs netPrice vs extraction evenness

Standards close the specification. The safety standard for hand-held sanders and polishers other than the disc type is IEC 62841-2-4, which replaced the older IEC 60745-2-4 and covers belt, drum, reciprocating, orbital, and random orbital machines. Disc-type tools such as angle grinders sit under the separate IEC 62841-2-3. The base standard IEC 62841-1 sets the general electrical limits, including a rated voltage up to 250 V for single-phase tools and a rated input up to 3,700 W. In Europe the harmonized version EN 62841 underpins the CE mark; North America references CSA C22.2 No. 62841 alongside the relevant UL standard. The abrasive itself is graded under ISO 6344, and the declared hand-arm vibration figure is measured by methods referenced to ISO 5349, which is the input to an operator exposure assessment.

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Key Specification Parameters

A sander data sheet may list a dozen lines, but only a handful drive the buying decision. The parameters that matter are: motion type and orbit diameter, speed (OPM, RPM, or belt speed), pad or belt size, power input, declared vibration, declared noise, and dust-extraction provision. Each is decoded below, with the headline numbers traceable to published manufacturer data.

Orbit diameter (eccentric stroke) is the diameter of the circle a random orbital or sheet pad traces, the single number that most defines the finish-versus-speed character of the tool. Typical values are 2.5, 3, and 5 mm. A 5 mm orbit (for example the Mirka DEROS 5650 or the Festool ETS EC 150/5) is for leveling and stripping; a 3 mm orbit (the Festool ETS EC 125/3) is a general-purpose middle; a 2.5 to 2.6 mm orbit (the Bosch GET65-5N at about 2.25 mm radius, or the Makita BO4900 at 2.6 mm) leans toward fine finishing. Material removal scales roughly with orbit multiplied by speed, so a small orbit at high OPM and a large orbit at low OPM can cut at similar rates while leaving very different scratch patterns.

Speed is reported differently per type. Orbital and random orbital tools quote OPM (orbits per minute), commonly 4,000 to 12,000, often as a variable range so the operator can slow down for delicate work; the Makita BO4900 runs 10,000 OPM, the BO3710 11,000 OPM. Belt sanders quote belt speed in m/s or surface feet per minute, with the Makita 9403 at about 8.3 m/s (1,640 ft/min). Drywall and disc tools quote RPM. Variable speed is valuable: high speed for stock removal, low speed to prevent burning heat-sensitive finishes and thermoplastics.

Power and motor type set sustained performance. Corded finishing sanders draw roughly 200 to 400 W (Makita BO4900 at 330 W, Festool drywall PLANEX at 400 W), while belt sanders draw far more (Makita 9403 at 1,200 W). The motor is either a brushed universal motor (cheaper, shorter life, more vibration) or a brushless EC motor (the Mirka DEROS and Festool EC machines), which delivers more usable power per watt, runs cooler, and is mandatory for credible cordless finishing performance. Headline wattage alone is misleading: a 350 W brushless motor can outperform a larger brushed one at the pad.

Vibration and noise are health and compliance parameters, not afterthoughts. Hand-arm vibration is declared in m/s2 by methods referenced to ISO 5349; a low figure (the Makita BO3710 declares around 3.5 m/s2) means an operator can run the tool longer before reaching the daily exposure action value. Active anti-vibration balancing on premium machines (the Festool ETS EC range) measurably lowers this. Noise is declared as a sound pressure level in dB(A); the Makita 9403 belt sander is rated about 84 dB(A) and the Makita BO3710 about 72 dB(A). Both feed directly into mandatory PPE and exposure-time decisions on a worksite.

  • Motion type and orbit: random orbital, fixed orbital, belt, disc, or detail; orbit 2.5 to 5 mm sets finish versus removal.
  • Speed: 4,000 to 12,000 OPM for orbital, 4 to 8.5 m/s for belt; variable speed strongly preferred.
  • Pad or belt size: 125 or 150 mm disc, sheet fraction, or 75 to 100 mm belt width.
  • Power and motor: 200 to 1,200 W; brushless EC for efficiency and cordless duty.
  • Vibration (ISO 5349) and noise (dB(A)): drive exposure limits and PPE.
  • Dust extraction: bag, turbine, or extractor port; L, M, or H class extractor pairing.
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Selection Decision Factors

To turn the preceding chapters into a specific model, follow the sequence below. Most selection errors come not from a single wrong line item but from deciding power or brand before deciding the surface and the motion type. These steps double as an RFQ template.

  1. Surface and stock-removal goal: First decide what the tool must do (level a glued panel, finish a flat face, reach a corner, sand a ceiling, follow a profile). This selects the motion type before anything else: belt for fast leveling, random orbital for flat finishing, sheet or detail for corners, long-neck for walls and ceilings.
  2. Pad or belt size: For random orbital, choose 125 mm for control and edge work or 150 mm for coverage on large flat panels. For belt, choose 75 mm for maneuverability or 100 mm for removal rate. Larger is faster but heavier and harder to keep flat.
  3. Orbit and speed: Specify a 5 mm orbit for leveling and stripping, 2.5 to 3 mm for fine finishing, and require variable speed so the same tool can slow down for heat-sensitive finishes. Confirm OPM range for orbital tools or belt speed for belt sanders.
  4. Dust extraction: Decide bag, self-generating turbine, or hose to an extractor. For silica-bearing material (drywall, stone, filler) require an M class extractor with automatic filter cleaning and a net or perforated abrasive matched to the pad hole pattern.
  5. Power source: Corded for fixed-shop production runtime, cordless brushless for work at height and on site where a cord is a hazard, pneumatic only where a large dry high-flow compressor is already plumbed. Decide this by where the work happens.
  6. Certifications: Confirm the tool meets IEC 62841-2-4 (or the local EN 62841 / CSA / UL transposition) and carries the required market mark (CE, UL, CSA). For dust-regulated work confirm the extractor dust class and any local silica-control compliance.
  7. Ergonomics, vibration, and noise: Compare declared hand-arm vibration (ISO 5349) and dB(A) noise, because they cap daily run time and set PPE. Weigh the tool in hand: a 1 kg finishing sander and a 3 kg belt sander fatigue an operator very differently over a shift.
  8. Total cost of ownership: Add the abrasive and pad consumable cost (often the largest lifetime line), filter and bag replacements, and downtime. A cheaper machine that clogs abrasive and lacks extraction can cost more per finished square meter than a dust-managed premium tool.

One last commonly overlooked dimension is serviceability and the consumable ecosystem: the availability of replacement pads in the exact hole pattern, the supply of matching net or perforated abrasive in the grades you use, brush or motor-module replacement, and a local service path. A sander is only as good as the abrasive supply behind it, and an orphaned pad pattern can strand an otherwise excellent machine. Mirka, Festool, Bosch, Makita, Metabo, DeWalt, and RUPES all maintain broad consumable lines and regional service, which is what makes them defensible choices for production fleets rather than one-off purchases.

FAQ

What is the difference between a random orbital sander and an orbital sheet sander?

A random orbital sander spins a round pad on an offset (eccentric) bearing, so the pad both orbits and freely rotates, producing a swirl pattern that never repeats. That random path avoids the repetitive scratch lines a fixed orbital leaves and is the reason random orbital is the default for fine wood and automotive finishing. An orbital sheet sander (sometimes called a finishing or palm sander) drives a rectangular pad in a small fixed circular orbit without free rotation, typically a 2 to 2.6 mm orbit at 10,000 to 12,000 OPM. The sheet sander reaches into square corners that a round pad cannot, but it leaves a finer, more visible repetitive pattern and removes stock more slowly. Use random orbital for speed and swirl-free finish on open surfaces, and a sheet or detail sander for corners and edges.

What do orbit diameter and OPM actually mean on a sander spec sheet?

Orbit diameter (also called the eccentric stroke or oscillation) is the width of the circle the pad traces, commonly 2.5, 3, or 5 mm on random orbital machines. A larger orbit removes material faster but leaves a coarser scratch pattern: a 5 mm orbit is for stripping and leveling, a 2.5 to 3 mm orbit is for fine finishing between coats. OPM is orbits per minute, the cycle rate of the pad, typically 4,000 to 12,000 OPM. Higher OPM cuts faster but generates more heat and demands more control. Material removal scales roughly with orbit diameter multiplied by OPM, so two machines with very different specs can remove stock at a similar rate while leaving very different finishes.

How does the FEPA P grit numbering relate to CAMI grit?

FEPA grit, marked with a leading P (P40, P80, P120, P220), is defined by ISO 6344 and is standard on European and most imported abrasives. CAMI grit, used historically in North America, carries no prefix (just 80, 120, 220). The two scales agree closely below about P220 but diverge in the fine range: FEPA P400 is coarser than CAMI 400 (FEPA P400 is roughly CAMI 320), and the gap widens as numbers climb. ISO 6344-2 covers macrogrits P12 to P220 and ISO 6344-3 covers microgrits P240 to P5000. FEPA holds a tighter particle-size distribution than CAMI, so a P-graded abrasive gives a more uniform scratch pattern. Always read the prefix: mixing CAMI 320 and FEPA P320 in a finishing sequence can leave visible scratches.

How do I choose the right sander for a given job?

Match the tool to the surface and the stock-removal goal. For fast stock removal on flat wood or for leveling glue joints, use a belt sander with a coarse P40 to P80 belt. For general flat finishing and removing belt scratches, move to a random orbital sander with P120 to P180. For final smoothing into square corners, use an orbital sheet sander or a detail sander with P180 to P240. For walls and ceilings, a long-neck drywall sander with integrated dust extraction is the only practical choice. For contoured or intricate work, a detail (triangular) or spindle sander follows the profile. A common professional kit is one belt sander, one 125 or 150 mm random orbital, and one detail sander, which covers the overwhelming majority of wood and finishing tasks.

Why does dust extraction matter so much on a sander?

Dust extraction does three things at once. First, it removes airborne dust: silica from drywall and stone and certain hardwood dusts are recognized respiratory hazards, and many jurisdictions regulate exposure, so capture at source plus an L or M class extractor is a compliance issue, not a convenience. Second, it clears spent abrasive from the cut, which keeps the grit cutting cleanly, prevents pad clogging, and extends abrasive life. Third, it improves finish: trapped grit under the pad causes deep random scratches. Machines pair a perforated or net abrasive with a matching hole pattern and either a self-generating turbine, an onboard bag, or a hose to a dust extractor. For drywall and any silica-bearing material, an M class extractor with automatic filter cleaning is strongly preferred over a bag.

Which safety standard governs hand-held sanders?

Hand-held sanders and polishers other than the disc type are covered by IEC 62841-2-4, which replaced the older IEC 60745-2-4. It applies to belt, drum, reciprocating, orbital, and random orbital sanders and polishers. Disc-type tools such as angle grinders fall under a separate part, IEC 62841-2-3. The base standard IEC 62841-1 sets the general requirements: a rated voltage up to 250 V single-phase and rated input up to 3,700 W. In Europe the harmonized version is EN 62841, which underpins the CE mark. Vibration emission is declared per the methods referenced by ISO 5349 for hand-arm vibration, and the figure on the data sheet feeds the daily exposure A(8) calculation that limits how long an operator may run the tool.

Should I buy a corded, cordless, or pneumatic sander?

Corded electric sanders give continuous runtime and the highest sustained power for production work, with input typically 200 to 1,200 W depending on type, and are the value choice for fixed shops. Cordless brushless sanders have closed the power gap for finishing duties (a brushless 18 V random orbital roughly matches a 300 W corded finishing sander) and are preferred on site and at height where a cord is a hazard, at the cost of battery management. Pneumatic (air) sanders are light, run cool, tolerate continuous duty, and are standard in body shops, but they demand a large, dry, high-flow compressor, often 10 CFM or more per tool, so they only make sense where compressed air is already plumbed. Decide by where the work happens before comparing brands.

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